Comments on: Four- and Six-Year-Old “Sex Offenders”; Middle School Midol Dealers http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:50:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Tracey http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-9992 Tracey Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:59:49 +0000 http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-9992 Sixteen kindergardners!! Who are the officials running these schools! And what were the kindergardners doing? Sexing down the teachers? It is our job as parents, teachers and adults to TEACH children right and wrong behavior, so that they will know how to function and thrive appropriately in public if it had been an adult male who had smooshed his face in the womans breasts he would have been dealt accordingly..... BECAUSE HE'S AN ADULT!! A six year old is a child! How can we pin a child with sexual harrassment or as a sex offender if they don't know what that is? These children are being punished and instead of teaching that, whats done at home cannot necessarily be done in public, or that you cannot repeat what you see someone else do (which, parents and adults should be mindful of what they do around their children, what they let their children watch, and who they let come around their children) they are being stuck with the title of a sex offender for years and decades of their life. Come on people... this is ridiculous, it's gone WAY too far Sixteen kindergardners!! Who are the officials running these schools! And what were the kindergardners doing? Sexing down the teachers? It is our job as parents, teachers and adults to TEACH children right and wrong behavior, so that they will know how to function and thrive appropriately in public if it had been an adult male who had smooshed his face in the womans breasts he would have been dealt accordingly….. BECAUSE HE’S AN ADULT!! A six year old is a child! How can we pin a child with sexual harrassment or as a sex offender if they don’t know what that is? These children are being punished and instead of teaching that, whats done at home cannot necessarily be done in public, or that you cannot repeat what you see someone else do (which, parents and adults should be mindful of what they do around their children, what they let their children watch, and who they let come around their children) they are being stuck with the title of a sex offender for years and decades of their life. Come on people… this is ridiculous, it’s gone WAY too far

]]> By: Mona http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-1297 Mona Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:37:44 +0000 http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-1297 <i>A workplace is obligated to prevent sexual harassment. While it’s not an act of sexual harassment for a kid to put (his, in this case) face in a woman’s breasts,</i> Not only is it not harassment, it is somewhat normal. My grandsons hugged me with their little faces there at that age. Worse, I slept with them when they spent the nite with me until they were about five. Anyone who wants to make a big deal out that -- and I'm not saying you would or are -- has issues. A workplace is obligated to prevent sexual harassment. While it’s not an act of sexual harassment for a kid to put (his, in this case) face in a woman’s breasts,

Not only is it not harassment, it is somewhat normal. My grandsons hugged me with their little faces there at that age. Worse, I slept with them when they spent the nite with me until they were about five. Anyone who wants to make a big deal out that — and I’m not saying you would or are — has issues.

]]> By: Longhairedweirdo http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-1291 Longhairedweirdo Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:20:07 +0000 http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-1291 Well, re: sexual harassment, there might be complications with the situation where 4 year old put his face in a woman's breasts. A workplace is obligated to prevent sexual harassment. While it's not an act of sexual harassment for a kid to put (his, in this case) face in a woman's breasts, it is an obligation of the school to protect the breasts of female employees (that hostile work environment thing). However, suspending the kid seems pointless unless the child has done this multiple times in the past. The school should just put a program in place over how to deal with inappropriate touch by young kids. That fulfills the schools responsibility to protect breasts. The problem is, if an adult male had done this, punishing the offender would have been mandatory (well... not mandatory, but not doing so would have been a clear case of allowing harassment to occur). I haven't seen the details on this case, but I'd bet that this is why they suspended the kid. Well, re: sexual harassment, there might be complications with the situation where 4 year old put his face in a woman’s breasts.

A workplace is obligated to prevent sexual harassment. While it’s not an act of sexual harassment for a kid to put (his, in this case) face in a woman’s breasts, it is an obligation of the school to protect the breasts of female employees (that hostile work environment thing).

However, suspending the kid seems pointless unless the child has done this multiple times in the past. The school should just put a program in place over how to deal with inappropriate touch by young kids. That fulfills the schools responsibility to protect breasts.

The problem is, if an adult male had done this, punishing the offender would have been mandatory (well… not mandatory, but not doing so would have been a clear case of allowing harassment to occur). I haven’t seen the details on this case, but I’d bet that this is why they suspended the kid.

]]> By: kevin_carson http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-1288 kevin_carson Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:08:49 +0000 http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-1288 School administrators are like bureaucrats everywhere. They don't like muss or fuss or bad publicity, and when they can insure themselves against it by inconveniencing someone else, they'll jump at the chance. Of course, being bureaucrats they're also stupid, and thus don't realize that their policies aimed at avoiding embarrassment will themselves cause even more embarrassment because of their humorous quality as "stupid administrator tricks." The same thing is true of HR types in the workplace who fire bloggers for the potential embarrassment, when an employee after a horrible day at work mentions to his 300 readers that "it sucks to work at Employer X." And then the story gets picked up by the wire services and major newspapers of record, and 30 million people read instead: "Blogger gets fired for revealing how bad it sucks to work at Employer X." That's the typical pattern of a Doocing story, and--like Wile E. Coyote--those HR geniuses never see it blowing up in their faces until it's too late. School administrators are like bureaucrats everywhere. They don’t like muss or fuss or bad publicity, and when they can insure themselves against it by inconveniencing someone else, they’ll jump at the chance. Of course, being bureaucrats they’re also stupid, and thus don’t realize that their policies aimed at avoiding embarrassment will themselves cause even more embarrassment because of their humorous quality as “stupid administrator tricks.”

The same thing is true of HR types in the workplace who fire bloggers for the potential embarrassment, when an employee after a horrible day at work mentions to his 300 readers that “it sucks to work at Employer X.” And then the story gets picked up by the wire services and major newspapers of record, and 30 million people read instead: “Blogger gets fired for revealing how bad it sucks to work at Employer X.” That’s the typical pattern of a Doocing story, and–like Wile E. Coyote–those HR geniuses never see it blowing up in their faces until it’s too late.

]]> By: Noumenon http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-1285 Noumenon Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:12:32 +0000 http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-1285 Good post, Mona. Good post, Mona.

]]> By: Mona http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-1282 Mona Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:45:11 +0000 http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-1282 Paige: I can even understand a policy against letting middle-schooler give ibuprofen to another student, since the other kid could be allergic, or it is contraindicated by medications s/he is taking or any number of things. The school nurse should be dispensing such things with parental permission, if the parents have not sent it with that student him/herself. But it ought not be treated as a "drug" offense and involve a freakin' strip search to give another girl some! Paige: I can even understand a policy against letting middle-schooler give ibuprofen to another student, since the other kid could be allergic, or it is contraindicated by medications s/he is taking or any number of things. The school nurse should be dispensing such things with parental permission, if the parents have not sent it with that student him/herself.

But it ought not be treated as a “drug” offense and involve a freakin’ strip search to give another girl some!

]]> By: Paige http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-1279 Paige Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:12:07 +0000 http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/04/13/four-and-six-year-old-sex-offenders-middle-school-midol-dealers/#comment-1279 I heard about the little kid that patted another's behind and had the cops called on him. Insane, and so sad that this little one has a record. Not that I'm an advocatge of the 'boys will be boys' attitude. But this is going unbelievably too far in the opposite direction, considering the age group we're dealing with here. I heard about the little kid that patted another’s behind and had the cops called on him. Insane, and so sad that this little one has a record. Not that I’m an advocatge of the ‘boys will be boys’ attitude. But this is going unbelievably too far in the opposite direction, considering the age group we’re dealing with here.

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