Comments on: Another veto from Bush http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/03/08/another-veto-from-bush/ Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:10:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Paige http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/03/08/another-veto-from-bush/#comment-129 Paige Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:40:25 +0000 http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/03/08/another-veto-from-bush/#comment-129 According to the NYTimes article quoted above, this veto is "only the ninth of his presidency, but the eighth in the last 10 months with Democrats in control of Congress." According to the NYTimes article quoted above, this veto is “only the ninth of his presidency, but the eighth in the last 10 months with Democrats in control of Congress.”

]]> By: thoreau http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/03/08/another-veto-from-bush/#comment-128 thoreau Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:10:22 +0000 http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/03/08/another-veto-from-bush/#comment-128 How many bills has he vetoed now? Only a handful, I think, and just about all for bad reasons. (I know some libertarians might argue that vetoing the stem cell funding bill was a good thing from a libertarian perspective, and maybe it was, depending on one's view of federal science funding. Still, this was never about fiscal discipline and the role of government.) How many bills has he vetoed now? Only a handful, I think, and just about all for bad reasons.

(I know some libertarians might argue that vetoing the stem cell funding bill was a good thing from a libertarian perspective, and maybe it was, depending on one’s view of federal science funding. Still, this was never about fiscal discipline and the role of government.)

]]> By: Mona http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/03/08/another-veto-from-bush/#comment-123 Mona Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:03:49 +0000 http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/03/08/another-veto-from-bush/#comment-123 <blockquote>...in which restrained prisoners are threatened with drowning</blockquote> Ah, Paige, you beat me to it on that NYT piece. All I'd add is that the reporter got the above wrong: Waterboarding is not a mere "threat" of drowning. <i>It induces the complete and terrifying sensation that one <b>is</b> drowning.</i> Which is why it is torture.

…in which restrained prisoners are threatened with drowning

Ah, Paige, you beat me to it on that NYT piece. All I’d add is that the reporter got the above wrong: Waterboarding is not a mere “threat” of drowning. It induces the complete and terrifying sensation that one is drowning. Which is why it is torture.

]]> By: kevin_carson http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/03/08/another-veto-from-bush/#comment-118 kevin_carson Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:26:42 +0000 http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/03/08/another-veto-from-bush/#comment-118 McCain's "Opposition to Torture" (TM) branding, such as it was, was about all he was good for. Now he's not even good for that. So when he's not actively harmful, McCain's about as useful as titties on a fish. McCain’s “Opposition to Torture” (TM) branding, such as it was, was about all he was good for. Now he’s not even good for that. So when he’s not actively harmful, McCain’s about as useful as titties on a fish.

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